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  1. Oh, I listen to Bro. Nibley almost every night on my ipod when I can’t sleep. I re-read his books as well, and am always learning something new. Thanks for the great quotes, often I hear some I want to capture on paper and then I have to search it out — these are a few of them — love this one:
    “The Lord won’t let you starve. Satan puts that fear into us, which is the opposite of Faith.”
    This one too stood out — “If the Lord wishes an individual to have more than a sufficiency for the basic needs, he will so provide”

    thanks!

  2. Alece

    I do, remember, however, that every time the Nephites, etc., were righteous the Lord blessed them with riches; and so I don’t think he wants us to not have lovely things, and wealth, etc. (As earthly parents, we certainly want our children to be well taken care of.)

    Unfortunately, when the Nephites, etc., were so blessed, they usually then became selfish, hoarded what they were given, and refused to share, which brought calamity upon them.

    Thus, it obviously takes balance (and spiritual wisdom) to have just enough that you are satisfied and yet, still feel like you can share with others!

  3. Chad Merrill

    Any thoughts on “saving for retirement?” Or would that be considered “stockpiling them to puff ourselves up?” The wisdom to not run faster than we have strength should always be in our heart and mind when considering these things, but I’m finding it is a delicate and sometimes difficult balance.

  4. Catherine

    How do you juxtapose Nibley’s writings, and more importantly the prophecies in the Book of Mormon, with the Church building an ostentatiously extravagant mall, right next to Temple Square?

  5. That’s a good point Bryce, Brigham Young encouraged the saints to beautify their homes. I often reflect on how money means very little to the Lord. He sees all time at one time, yet he had Joseph build the Nauvoo Temple at great expense, only to see it burn and be destroyed. All that money and time up in smoke. It may be necessary for the church to accumulate wealth for God’s purposes here on earth. We really can’t see the whole picture.

    I like that one example when Nibley wanted the name of his book changed, because he didn’t like the title. (it’s in the Faith of an Observer video) Truman Madsen wanted to call it the Nibley Legacy, and thought Nibley would go along with that name since it was already on every page and it would cost money to change. Nibley said change it, and take it out of his royalty. Now you might think that was not a good choice of spending money, but the money didn’t matter —

  6. TrueBeliever

    Actually, our temple endowment has replaced the original law of consecration.

    In the holy temple we promise all we have to the cause of Zion. This promise enables us to fulfill the law of Zion without actually having to give up our own personal income and resources.

    The problem with some of Nibley’s quotes is that they take the scriptures more literally than the current temple endowment and the current teachings of the brethren.

    All we need to do is follow the current brethren and put our trust in the current temple endowment and we are guaranteed exaltation without having to have a literal gathering or to literally consecrate our temporal substance.

  7. TrueBeliever, The Church’s responsibility is to teach entry level gospel principals. Faith, repentance, baptism, and the gift of the spirit, are seemingly entry level concepts; nevertheless, even within these initial gospel concepts, there are greater depths of knowledge available, especially with regard to water-baptism (that we perform–with authority) which is ostensibly followed at some future time by the Baptism of the Spirit, wherein the Lord says, “I Baptise you with Fire and the Holy Spirit.” Its our job, as individuals and families, to go beyond the basic instruction; its not up to the church to shout these doctrines from the housetops. Nothing is hidden; its all available to those who seriously seek greater light and knowledge (Adam, what are you doing?) The temple covenant requires that we live the law of consecration–as individuals, not as a collective organization. (It’s not the united order.) Granted, many people make the oath and covenant, but don’t personally hear the admonition; they also don’t hear that this is a telestial kingdom and grasp the consequences of that teaching. In any event, there’s nothing stoping members form living the higher law. There’s nothing stopping you. “We are free to go as far as we want,” to quote the Nib. Its a private thing; you really can’t say what level someone else is living. For example, a good Bishop certainly consecrates a lot of time…

  8. DAS

    My love for Hugh Nibley comes from my time working in the Dean’s office in the College of Religion at BYU. I adored him not only because he helped clarify the gospel and encouraged all to learn the complete gospel, but he was real and good and humorous and never took himself too seriously. He couldn’t find his class because his class schedule was three years old, entered speaking one language and left speaking another, make quips about the weight of holding the priesthood, etc. He was also so kind. Before my employment my sister was his personal secretary and many stories came from that relationship. I had all the time in the world to ask him salient questions but did I? Oh, the regrets. Thanks, post author–doing a great job here.

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