Many of you are no doubt aware of the infamous and libelous Big Love TV episode that is supposed to air on HBO this March 15th. But for those who aren’t, the producers and writers of the show have reached a new level of disrespect in attempting to profane the LDS temple ordinances on public television, and to make a mockery of the Church. According to executive producer Mark Olsen, “We researched it out the wazoo . . . We go into the endowment room and the celestial room . . . and we present what happens in those ceremonies. That’s never been shown on television before.” Then Olsen has the audacity to add, “But it’s not for shock value. It’s really a very important part of the story.”
Of course, those that read these statements will easily find Olsen’s words more than contradictory—it’s never been shown on television before, but it’s not for shock value. Anyone that is excited about showing something on television that’s “never been shown before,” particularly when that thing is held exceptionally sacred by a large group of people, is doing it for shock value. It’s the very same reason that the media continues to push the envelope in how explicit sex, violence, and horror is portrayed. They have to show something new to keep the audience hooked, something that pushes beyond the limits of what has been shown before, regardless of the impact it may have on those whose values and morals are higher than theirs.
It would be untrue to say I am not deeply disappointed in all of the people involved with Big Love, that they would be so insensitive and disrespectful to the LDS Church and its members as to attempt something like this which they know is offensive to us. But that is what the show has increasingly been about. Its producers and writers, who hired an “ex-Mormon consultant” for this episode, clearly have a vindictive attitude towards the Church, making it out to be something it is not, and perpetuating misconceptions such as Mormons as polygamists. Now they want to go all the way in attempting to desecrate our most sacred worship practices.
But, to be honest, people have attempted to profane the temple before. The ordinances have been scripted online. Videos of supposed recreations have been posted. All of these things have been made available to the public, and we will surely see much worse attempts in the future. Undoubtedly, it doesn’t make it right in the least measure. But has it profaned the temple? No. The temple continues to provide a place of peace and security for the Saints, a house of revelation and prayer where the Holy Spirit resides, a sanctuary where solemn covenants with God are made and sealed, a temple where the most exalting blessings of the Atonement of Jesus Christ are found.
Br. Randy Bott, an excellent BYU religion professor I once took a class from, made this very clear to me. There will be many people who will attempt to defame the temple, and our sacred worship, but all of it is in vain. The Prophet Joseph Smith once boldly prophesied:
Our missionaries are going forth to different nations . . . the Standard of Truth has been erected; no unhallowed hand can stop the work from progressing; persecutions may rage, mobs may combine, armies may assemble, calumny may defame, but the truth of God will go forth boldly, nobly, and independent, till it has penetrated every continent, visited every clime, swept every country, and sounded in every ear, till the purposes of God shall be accomplished, and the Great Jehovah shall say the work is done. ((History of the Church 4:540))
The only people that such defamation hurts are those that break the solemn covenants they’ve made with God, and all for filthy lucre. They made promises in the presence of God, angels, and witnesses, and they will be held accountable for their actions, in addition to shattering their integrity and honesty among their fellow men. Who will sell their promises for money? And those that have not been members of the Church and do these things still know better than to shame and belittle the sacred practices of a major world-wide religion.
The irony is that what these people are attempting to do will backfire on them in the end. President Brigham Young once rightly declared:
Every time you kick ‘Mormonism’ you kick it upstairs; you never kick it downstairs. The Lord Almighty so orders it . . . Every time they persecute and try to overcome this people, they elevate us, weaken their own hands, and strengthen the hands and arms of this people. And every time they undertake to lessen our number, they increase it. And when they try to destroy the faith and virtue of this people, the Lord strengthens the feeble knees, and confirms the wavering in faith and power in God, in light, and intelligence. Righteousness and power with God increase in this people in proportion as the Devil struggles to destroy it. . . . Let us alone, and we will send Elders to the uttermost parts of the Earth, and gather out Israel, wherever they are; and if you persecute us, we will do it the quicker, because we are naturally dull when let alone, and are disposed to take a little sleep, a little slumber, and a little rest. If you let us alone, we will do it a little more leisurely; but if you persecute us, we will sit up nights to preach the Gospel. ((Discourses of Brigham Young, 351))
I am not worried about this show. Do what they may, the work will roll on, mightier and faster than ever. I’ve also learned this great teaching from Br. Bott, that when the sacred things of the temple are displayed outside of that sacred context and divinely ordained environment, they take on a entirely different and foreign meaning to whomever they come in contact with. Outside the temple they are no longer sacred, they are no longer exalting. There is no priesthood where those things will be displayed, so there is no power. They don’t have the same meaning as they do to us when we are in a dedicated house of the Lord, so they will be misunderstood. They become just words and fabrics. They will be mocked and ridiculed and laughed at, but probably ignored by most, and they will always get it wrong. This is the difference between the sacred and the profane. The Apostle Paul once gave this as a sign of true disciples of Christ, “Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution” (2 Tim. 3:12).
Members of the Church should not get angry at these individuals, write bitter mail, or make a scene, as much as it is deeply disheartening to see this happen. That is precisely what they are looking for. If you pay attention to a temper tantrum, it will only provoke more of the same. Let’s make this an opportunity to share the gospel even more, and the blessings that are to be found in the temple, the blessings promised to prophets of old restored again. Let’s be comforted in the fact that we have a living prophet today, that the living gospel of Jesus Christ has been restored to the earth, that the authority of the priesthood is in our hands, and that the temple provides us a place on earth where we may commune with our Heavenly Father, and ultimately be in His presence. Nothing can take that away from us. President Joseph F. Smith once taught:
Let it be the aim of he Saints to cultivate the spirit of generosity and good will, such as was exemplified in the life of Christ, and proclaimed when the angels heralded abroad the message: ‘Peace on earth, to men good will,’ and which has been reiterated in the modern restoration of the gospel. ((Gospel Doctrine, p. 112))
See the Church’s response to this issue at the LDS Newsroom’s article “The Publicity Dilemma.”
Amen, Bryce!
I simply must chuckle that polygamy doesn’t hold the attention of the viewers as “shock” value in and of itself anymore. Really, I must question what that says about polygamy? Ponder that one! lol
I simply loved the statement the LDS Newsroom made in addressing “The Publicity Dilemma”. As always it was done with such respect and reverence, while still asserting a solemn rebuke. When I read statements such as this one, my testimony just seems to enlarge.
Your points and advice concerning the HBO production of Big Love and our reactions to it are “spot on” and hopefully will be followed by all LDS members. Thank you.
Great post, Bryce. Thanks.
Well said, Bryce. Deprive the issue of the oxygen of publicity and it too will pass.
Thanks for your comments about this. I found this article just minutes after I heard about this upcoming episode of HBO, and I was really comforted by the quotes you refer to and your statements. Our Church is true, and it will not be stopped by things like this. Thank you.
I heard a NPR segment about one month ago interviewing one of the creators and writers for Big Love. He (the writer) was raised in the Church and during his adolescence turned to homosexuality. As I listened to the segment, it was obvious that the writer (sorry, I forgot his name) obviously has quite a bit of emotional issues that he had to deal with as a child. It seems that Big Love is his platform to ‘get back’ at church. It’s sad, very sad. When the show was first announced a couple of years ago I thought it wouldn’t last long; but curiously, it has a solid audience base. Although it is negative advertising, it’s still advertising and the Church continues to grow and the work is still being accomplished.
Thank you for this thought provoking article. You have calmed my emotions, set my heart at ease, and helped me to remember that we have nothing to fear.
Well said, and in keeping with the Spirit. We shouldn’t fuss about it. Let us carry on, calmly step back, and watch the Lord fight our battles, for he has promised it.
Lots of good points, Bryce. Well said.
Yeah, the Standard of Truth quote was the first thing to come to mind when I read about this issue. I also found your uplifting website too. Bonus. Keep up the good work. (D&C 101:16)
Thank you for your insights and thoughts on this subject. If we didn’t have opposition in this life, how would we grow and get stronger? We have to take a stand now; we cannot sit back any longer and be “Sunday Mormons.” If we are not doing something significant during the week toward sharing the gospel, we are not helping the work to move along. I know I can do much more. I appreciate the message of peace that surrounded your comments.
I am continually saddened by the stories and subjects this TV series feel they need to “explore”. Why did they need to hire an ex-member if their show is supposedly about a man and his family who are not members of the church. Why did they need to recreate the temple ceremonies of the LDS church if the show is not supposedly about that church.
In case you didn’t know, Tom Hanks is one of the producers of this show. My repect for him just plummeted to new lows.
While I agree we shouldn’t let these things drive us to madness, I do think that we can make our voice heard. I think it is appropriate for us to let others know this is inappropriate. If we feel we need to take actions to let our voice be heard, I think we should do so in a controlled fashion. The Church’s statement on the issue underscores that members are free to respond as they see fit. I think it is appropriate for us to let the sponsors of this show know that we don’t support this show.
Thank you for your article here. It is refreshing to learn again about the statements made by our prophets on the destiny of our Church. And it is a blessing to read the comments following. It seems like we are a support and an encouragement to each other. Thanks for this forum to express our opinions on values and doctrines we cherish in a positive upbeat way. So much is negative and destructive out there, HBO case in point.
You’re kidding! Apparently Tom has a bone to pick with the church now, too. Really sad. Apparently the ex-member forgot that God will not be mocked. I wouldn’t want to be with the Big Love bunch when they go before the Eternal Bar!
Any idea which version of the ceremony they are going to use? As far as I know, Big Love tends to mirror mainly the FLDS rather than mainstream. I am not sure what the FLDS use for a Temple Ceremony but am sure that it would not be what is current in the LDS Temple. If it is the FLDS temple ceremony, then it will be interesting to see the differences.
The episode apparently features a flash back to back before the characters were living an FLDS lifestyle, and were in good standing with the LDS Church. Thus, it will attempt to be a representation of the LDS version.
We’ve little in common doctrinally and are hardly on the same page. But we do have the common attribute (Latter Day Saints and Jehovah’s Witnesses) of getting slammed in the popular media, and for much the same reason. I enjoyed your post.
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Along these same lines I was watching last week “Law and Order” where some LDS offshot group is investigated, it repeatedly shows garments sewn in black thread, and mocked by the police and attorneys.
I think we are getting a little blow-back from Prop.8.
-Littlefield
I think we are getting a LOT of blow-back from Prop 8. (and retribution, hate, etc) We apparently got the attention of the adversary…
The x-Mormon writer for Big Love is Dustin Lance Black, the same guy who wrote the screenplay for Milk and, from his speech at the Academy Awards, has an axe to grind with the Church. I agree with the previous posts…don’t give this controvery oxygen and it will die a quick death.
“clearly have a vindictive attitude towards the Church, making it out to be something it is not, and perpetuating misconceptions such as Mormons as polygamists”
I came across your article while looking up Big Love on the internet and read the above quote. I am not a member of the LDS Church, but wanted offer my opinion, for what it’s worth. I am a viewer of Big Love, and I have to say that first of all I don’t think any intelligent person thinks mormons are polygamists, especially if they do watch Big Love. It has actually made it very clear there are huge differences between the church beliefs and those of the polygamists. I also don’t believe the show is vindictive towards your religion at all. I can obviously only speak for myself, but I watch because it shows a different kind of family in our world today, yet a lot of the issues they go through are similar to any family (communication, morals, etc). It’s just a TV show, entertainment pure and simple. However, since the main characters have evolved from an LDS background obviously reference must be made to the LDS religion, and I think the show has done a great job of showing the difference between the crazy compound religion and the regular LDS religion. I understand that whatever they are about to show on next weeks episode is something you hold sacred, and perhaps it should be given the respect you ask, but please know that most of the world aren’t going to know the difference anyway. I think the fact that so much is a secret in your religion is more of a factor of people not trusting your church and all the misbeliefs, not a TV show. I don’t want to offend you with my opinions, but simply to say that as someone not involved in your religion, it doesn’t make sense to me why you are so offended by something that most of us are going to forget about the day after watching the show anyway. I really don’t think the world will be buzzing the next day about what ‘those crazy mormons do in their temples’. Again, I believe everyone deserves respect, and I’m not trying to offend at all, just to say it’s really no big deal to the rest of the world.
When I first heard about this upcoming episode on HBO, I was shocked that the line was crossed and deeply concerned that the show would riducle our sacred vows.
I really appreciated this post, and the comments from Joseph Smith. I felt the spirit very strong when I read what he had prophesied.
I feel that this show will be used for good. I hope that this encourages investigators to ask questions about what they may see and the purposes behind the endowment session.
I share my tetsimony to the world that the church is true and that it has been restored to glory once again upon the face of the earth. I invite all you read this post to search out Christ and come unto him.
Dwayne Roberts
Mount Juliet, TN
This television show won’t hinder the work of the Lord. However, for those who have not been to the temple it will make things confusing. I cringe to think that something so holy will be displayed before an unprepared world in the name of entertainment. These ceremonies are sacred for a reason. I don’t condemn the world because they simply don’t understand what is involved here. However, the producers and writers of this show will have to answer for their actions one day and specifically how it influenced those not of our faith. We don’t need to mount any type of defense of the temple except to say that everything involved symbolizes the Savior and His atonement through parable style teaching.
Bryce:
You might find some interest in my post:
“Exposing sacred temple practices violates professional standards.”
All religious rites, sacraments are considered sacred to those who hold them. I’ve seen a great many marriage ceremony traditions depicted on film and television. I don’t share them, understand them, but neither do I think they are strange or weird, and better yet, I understand that they are sacred to those who practice them.
Many non-Christian religions have traditions that seem odd from viewed from an outsider’s vantage point. If an aboriginal marriage ceremony is shown on television, where is the outrage? There is none. I once watched on a show titled something like “strange and amazing videos” the marriage rituals for some group in India. It was fascinating to think that if done in another context the rituals could even be called immoral, but they weren’t under the rules of that society.
Let’s be fair and show outrage at any artistic portrayals of all sacred religious ceremony. But I don’t think even LDS would go that far, because the classic romance comedy often ends with a marriage ceremony – I’m thinking “My Big Fat Greek Wedding” here 🙂 – and marriage is a good thing right?
One other quick thought is that we need to distinguish more clearly between the terms secret and sacred. Most if not all the definitions of the word sacred do NOT include an element of secrecy. I think that is because sacredness has everything to do with how one holds or esteems a particular subject. What is sacred to me isn’t sacred to another, and that is okay. We must not demand that others hold our beliefs as sacred as we do, which sacredness just happens to include and element of secrecy for those of us who have actually taken the covenant upon ourselves – all others are exempt from the expectation of keeping the secret.
I will never watch the Big Love episode because I won’t subscribe to HBO because most of the programming there is unsuitable for my home.
I agree with the non-LDS poster that says most people will forget the ceremony the next day.
Which leads to a much greater point, most LDS are afraid of our history. We are constantly trying to distance ourselves from practices of the past which have brought about persecution, and polygamy is a biggie in this regard. We need to get over ourselves. Most of the world’s religions have pasts that they would like to forget, but the LDS tendency to take such a hard stance in trying to eliminate it from the public consciousness is only fueling the fire. It is times like this that a little humility would do us all some good.
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If you ask me, it is 100% obvious that there is a hidden issue why Big Love had that episode: because the person/s behind it has/have an axe to grind at the LDS Church. And it was either induced, heightened or exacerbated by Proposition 8.
I never believed in their statement that they had to do it for the sake of the story—it’s just a piece of p.r. and a feel-good formality. Honesty in Hollywood? That’s a myth.
The writer who is part of the production is a lapsed member who publicly expressed his hate for his LDS family background because of his sexual orientation. The actor-producer came from a part-member family and did not have a good experience about it either. And the timing–so fresh, right after the Prop 8 saga! It is so, so, so hard to believe that these things are not related to the issue.
Wow, thank you so much for all of this information. Bryce, I especially appreciate your comments and also believe that we should just let it die. I did not watch the episode of Big Love on TV, but I saw a small news clip from their portrayal of the endowment. I do have one question. As an endowed and sealed member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, how should we respond when a nonmember, family member or friend asks us if this portrayal is accurate? I know that the Mormon/Polygamist thing of course is not accurate, but what do I say about the portrayal of the endowment?
Thanks K.
I would suggest taking the road that the apostles do when asked specifics about the temple ceremony. I would tell them we don’t discuss the details of the temple outside the temple. That is the very issue at heart here. The TV show is “discussing” the temple ceremony in an inappropriate and disrespectful fashion. Whether it is accurate or not is really not the issue, or even relevant really.
Then I would suggest you take the opportunity to explain what the temple is, what the endowement, covenants, promises, blessings, and other parts of the temple are, how families are sealed, and the other wonderful aspects of the temple. You might even go as far as to explain that we make promises in the temple to keep the temple endowment to ourselves.
You could also point out that we don’t talk about the temple ceremony with other people that are endowed either outside the temple. I don’t know if all the people wondering about this issue realize we don’t talk about temple ceremonies with anyone outside the temple, even other endowed members!
Bryce, thank you so very much for your diligence in maintaining your site, it’s so refreshing. I appreciate your insights and how you defend and sustain the temple.
When I first read your post, I immediately remembered a quote by Hugh Nibley. However, I couldn’t locate it until today. I apoligize that it’s late but I hope your readers will read it and benefit therefrom.
“Even though everyone may discover what goes on in the temple, and many have already revealed it, the important thing is that I do not reveal these things; they must remain sacred to me. I must preserve a zone of sanctity which cannot be violated whether or not anyone else in the room has the remotest idea what the situation really is…. No matter what happens, it will, then, always remain secret; only I know exactly the weight and force of the covenants I have made—I and the Lord with whom I have made them—unless I choose to reveal them. If I do not, then they are secret and sacred no matter what others may say or do. Anyone who would reveal these things has not understood them, and therefore that person has not given them away. You cannot reveal what you do not know!”
—Hugh Nibley, The Temple and the Cosmos, p. 64.
Thanks, Bryce